I'm a Good Ol' Radical, That's Just What I Am…

Oh my! I've been outed as a "hardliner," a positively radical traditionalist! As I had to waste my time with this, and because I want to get as much mileage as possible out of my reply to "Henri" on Foolishness to the World (as yet unmoderated), I (partially and with a few minor revisions) reproduce the comment here.

[J]ust a few observations/questions about another "pointed" and very substantially incorrect comment in the Anglican-Catholic blogosphere.

I'd really love to learn more about my personal agenda… and how, were it to exist, it deviates from that of the vast majority of traditional Anglicans — for whom these Ordinariates were so generously imagined and brought into being by our beloved Pope Benedict XVI.

I am not a partisan for the Usus Antiquior. I am a devotee — and with God's help — defender of Tradition. That the genuine, peculiar liturgical and devotional patrimony of those Anglicans well-disposed to the Ordinariates is more closely aligned with the practices of the Universal Church before the reforms of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council is simply a fact.

I do not resist the New Order as such: I love and maintain a legitimate and holy tradition — and, according to the Holy Father, a treasure to be shared.

I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X. The fact that I am a layman should be ample evidence to support this claim. That said, I deeply admire the Work of Archbishop Lefebvre, and I recognise that the position of Catholic Tradition in Christ's Church would be much weaker today were it not for the saintly man and his Societas Sacerdotalis.

Finally, I am happy to repeat what I wrote in the comment box on The Anglo-Catholic, perhaps with a bit less sarcasm — but with the same simple honesty. I know that, being the prodigal sons, we former Anglicans are meant to listen and learn and not presume to question or contradict our elder brethren in The Faith, but my notion of being Catholic is not unquestionable attention to every media report of the personal preferences of the Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith or the members of any top secret liturgical committee.

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7 thoughts on “I'm a Good Ol' Radical, That's Just What I Am…

  1. Too true! To be frank, one would think that secretiveness for no good reason is a bad habit best done away with, as certain all too well known major scandals throughout the Church would seem to indicate. I dislike the way too many are eager to don tinted spectacles and act as little Pollyannas, crying "Peace, peace" when all is not in fact fine and dandy. It seems childish and opposed to that liberty for which Christ came and set us free. In this age of social media, it seems foolishly old-fashioned (not to say daft) to try and suppress perfectly legitimate debate about so seemingly pious and reasonable a matter as the progress of a liturgical reform in line with the express wishes of the last Pope. What threat, to be honest, does the discussion of these matters on this honourable blog (which I am sure its maintainer would happily admit is not terribly influential, let alone possessed of some malign agenda and secret influence) pose to anything or anyone? Where is the glorious liberty of the children of God? Prudence in delicate matters is one thing; mouse-like timidity is quite another. I cannot see why discussion of the ongoing reform of the Anglican Use Mass should be forbidden as somehow sinful – what a mad notion, and how sad that grown men would espouse it. If it really were the case that mere mention of these matters would cause severe problems to the cause of true and faithful liturgical reform, how damaged and broken, how hypocritical and vice-ridden would the Church be – and how much would such wickedness be in need of exposure.

  2. I think we would have been better served by a much more open process. I imagine most Ordinariate folks would have preferred "Holy Ghost," for instance, and should have had a chance to say so.

    Part of the Patrimony is that the English speaking peoples have long been accustomed to "having a say," and we don't take kindly to Italian-style secrecy. On the other hand, after we have our say, we are usually much more obedient that the Italians themselves.

    Susan Peterson

    1. God bless you, Ordinariate folks!

      I'm sorry about the current realities of the Church, so I will pray that the Lord will give us some comfort.

    2. It's a pity the novus ordo didn't receive a similar trial period in the 60s. Ordinariate Catholics should consider themselves very fortunate to have a chance to test the fruits of the congregations labors to date.

      I see the CDW was eager to excise some of the principle features from the1979 Episcopal Church liturgical reform. I hope the Congregation might take another look at the possibility of restoring the optional opening to "In nomine patris, et filii, etc" as the priest's greeting. Then make provision for the use of the Trisagion for use during Lent. While permitting the placement of the rite of peace after the readings or before communion, and "holy gifts for the holy" at communion to be adopted as further options.

      I hope the CDW will entertain the possibility of the eucharistic prayers from the CofE , the Anglican Church of Canada, and other Anglican forms being added (with modificatons) to the list of eucharistic prayers later on.

      I'm surprised the CDW did as careful a job as they did in striking some balance between Anglican and Roman liturgical usages, especially after the terribly botched work on the Roman Missal, 3rd edition. I never thought restoration of the Anglican Mass or the Sarum rite in all its splendor was a very doable thing. So, blessed are those who expect little or nothing for they shall not be disappointed.

      There are some features of this experimental rite which could be easily incorporated into a reformed Roman "ordinary form" of the Mass, e.g. the prayers at the foot of the altar as an optional opening rite, ending the amateurish, locally improvised petitions and having a choice of fixed formulas for the Prayer of the Faithful. Finally, introducing hieratic language in the Mass prayers does wonders for the offertory prayers and for a recited or sung eucharistic prayer.

  3. I'm a good ol' Radical; that's just what I am.

    …And from this Novus Ordo, I cannot help but scram.

    I confess, I am very emotional about the state of the Usus Antiquior. And I ended up being -rightfully- banned for the various outrages I make at many places.

    At this point, however, I think I've given up. What's the point of being outraged anymore? None of us can change anything- that's up to the clerics in the hierarchy. And the hierarchy doesn't look too healthy when you have bishops prioritizing illegal immigration to the Salvation of Man. So, when I attend the Mass of Paul VI, I just go through the motions at this point. And just mentally repeat "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have Mercy Upon Me, The Sinner" and focus on the Sacrifice of Our Lord.

    At least, it has made me less angry, whenever I hear "Please sing our gathering song, 'On Eagle's Wings' Page 654" because the music fades away. I look at the Cross with Our Lord, if present, and the liturgical dancers and "Extraordinary minister of the holy Eucharist" and altar girls and the lame jokes Father makes, and the hand-holding, and all that- they just fade away.

  4. I'm touched and feel strength of heart when I read your comments — I being a cradle Roman Catholic of the unfortunate age to have endured the 60's experimentation in Catholic High school — cum by yaa ??!! — who watched his father burn with anger and watch him virtually free fall as if Mother Church had abandoned him and all he knew from Tradition; at the intrusion of the Bugnini — Paul VI protestant experiments known as Novus Ordo and all the evil associated therewith [recall the Tridentine Mass, the Mass of all Ages, was 'outlawed at the time'] … what insanity — think Weakland and Mahony — I was not mature enough then to console poor dad nor fully understand his caveats to me about the inherent 'wrongs' in this novus ordo thing — but I matured in wisdom and grace; 7 children, 17 grandkids, and have now lived long enough to see the essential Mass of Gregory "Magnus" and St. Pius V in the meat of the Anglican Use [essential Sarum Rite]. I'm at once glad you are back home to Mother Church — good for you and US; and the intelligence of what you bring with you — as indicated in the comments above and CCC Campbells' blog commentary recognition of 'Archbishop M. Lefebvre's holiness' and may I add he may be the last Remnant of the Holy Roman Church — thank you again to all, pls accept a big wide armed welcome home with hugs and kisses … and stick fast to your high quality, pre Tudor traditions. Be loyal to the Holy Father & Tradition — ubi Petrus, ecclesia est!! Holy Ghost, fill the hearts of they faithful, enkindle in them the fire of Your Love… send forth Your spirit; all of America needs You.

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